Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Pan Iranism is good or bad?

Are you loyal to Iran independence and resistant to Pan Iranism?
l'll tell you that I am!
I know that pan iranism has got its own supporters, and it has been moderately growing among Persian youngsters mostly but the sad part is when pan iranism advocated by green movement leaders to penetrate the society to gain the state power!! Last night I got the chance to overview the urge behind this green color, finally I remembered why I can't accept that this green was the sacred religious one , but it has been inspired with the green background color of pan Iranists symbol,
In my point of view most of people who are sympathetic to pan iranism are after new territorial order, however most of pan iraninists depend on foreigners solidarity , mostly western elites. They ignore the fact that foreign support wont come until they sacrifice their independent political identity, which is happening now for pan iranist greeners.
we should understand that there are different tribes and ethnics living in Iran and historically Pan Iranism never stopped the chronic infighting between kurds , Turks(Azeri Iranians), or Arab and jam in Iran but as we see one strong state power with Islamic identity united them all within Iran.
Pan Iranism is nothing but a conflict point which increases the sense of differences between Iranians. You would sense the feeling of racial inequality by even a glimpse at the their symbol .
Nonetheless developing a national identity is not bad if we know our real nation-wide identity!
next post will be patriotism!

37 comments:

  1. Pan-Iranism could be a unifiying force if Iran means the whole nation. But if they only count Persians in, that could be dangerous.
    Soon we would hear that they use Radiography on Persain speaking Iranians to determine who is truely Persian and who has decended from other races!

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  2. Sa'ad Ibn Abi WaqqasSaturday, November 14, 2009

    As an Arab I dont care what you do in Iran, but whatever you decide please get the hell out of Iraq and al-Ahwaz. Your government is a sick religious, backward theocracy that is not suitable for the modern era. With that said it is up to you to do what you want in Persia. Whatever you decide please tell your Mullahs to get out of Iraq and Arabstan. You are the ones who destroyed Iraq just as much as the Americans. We know how much hatred you have for the Arab Nation. And your rhetoric about the Islamic brotherhood is just rhetoric. Your actions speak louder than words and your Persian Mullahs are hypocrites.

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  3. Dear Sa'ad,

    Tell us about your own mullahs too.

    Regards.

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  4. Saad,
    Thank you for your comment,
    As an Arab you dont have any right on a single inch of Iran soil, Al ahwaz is your myth, get over it, Khuzistan has got more farsi speaking people and shia muslim arabs who don't want to join your stupid arab nationalism,
    Arab nationalism has died long ago only people like you are still sleepwalking ,

    Our Islamic brotherhood has been shown in our action towards Palestine and many other sunni countries, Our islamic brotherhood has been shown in forgiving billion dollar damages which Iraq had to pay for us, Our islamic brotherhood is shown in hosting 3 million afghan refugees without getting any thing from UN....Our islamic brotherhood has been there with hamas with Gaza while egypt closed Rafah, seizing Iranian ship carrying food, clothing and medicine for our palestinian brothers and sisters , with hezbullah with lebanon , with many African muslim nations,

    so who is more of a hypocrite now ?

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  5. It is you who is still the hypocrite! And an even bigger hypocrite and racist with every word you spit out. Al-Ahwaz has always been Arab and the inhabitants in that Arab land are Arab. You and your filthy government do not speak for the Shia Arabs and we will not let you use the Shia faith to further your Persian Safavid dreams. You have not done anything for the Arabs or any Muslims. When Khomeini the dog came to power he wanted to advance his revolution into Iraq and the great Arab knight Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi army defended Iraq for 8 years. Do you remember that? Do you remember Qadasiyat Saddam? Im sure you do. That was the war in which the Zionist entity was helping your Persian Mullahs destroy an Arab country. You have not done anything for Palestine exept making stupid speeches that hurt the Palestinian cause with its reactionary Islamic rhetoric. Its very easy and very safe making speeches from Tehran. Nobody is fooled by it. Ahmadinajad is a clown. Yes you sent weapons to Hizballah in Lebanon because they are Iran's proxies. Its in Irans interest to do so and do not think anyone is fooled by that either. In Afghanistan you helped the Great Satan, and in Iraq your Iraqi puppets came to power with the help of Great Satan's army. Where is your Persian army to defend the Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan from the Great Satan? I dont see it. All I see is a bunch of people forced by the Mullahs to go into Downtown Iran and march and chant in front of the cameras.

    Again do whatever you want in Iran. Nobody cares, but stop playing your dirty games in the Arab world. We are Arabs first and you will not use Islam to expand your Iranian interests. The prophet is Arab, the Quran is Arabic, and we do not need anyone from Persia to play one-umpanship with Islam. We understand it better than you.

    Sa'ad Ibn Abi Waqqas

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  6. ARABISTAN
    The Iraq-Iran conflict principally concerns this area. All throughout its history and even though it makes up a territory that is naturally Arab, Arabistan had been annexed, occupied or shared by different foreign powers. It is located southeast of Iraq and is bounded on the north and east by mountains of the Zagros chain. These mountains stretch over a distance of 620 miles and are 120 miles wide; their altitude varies from 1100 to 1700 meters. Rising up behind Arabistan, they seem to be a natural barrier separating this region from Iran. To the west, Arabistan reaches the two Iraqi departments of Basra and Missan, while to the south it is bordered by the Arabian Gulf. The surface area of Arabistan is about 71,430 sq. miles, with 263 miles in length and 238 miles in width. In 1936, Iran amputated 9,800 sq. miles by annexing them to its southernmost department. The population of Arabistan numbers 3.5 million composed of Arab tribes having come in successive waves from the Arabian Peninsula well before Islam.

    This region is known in Arabic under the name "Ahwaz", plural of the name "Hawz" and derived from the verb "Haza Yahuz", which means appropriation. This name simply designates the right a person actually exercises over a territory. It dates back to the period when Alexander the Great conquered Persia and divided it into provinces. The Arabs of this region reassembled themselves in an independent department they called "Ahwaz", in reference to the properties owned by the various tribes therein. (10) Subsequently, the Persians were to call this territory Ahwaz with an unvoiced "h", which takes away its meaning; in fact, the Arabic alphabet contains two letters which correspond, first, to the unvoiced "h" and, second, to the voiced "h". This phonetic shade of difference does not exist in Persian, both letters being confounded in one unvoiced "h", whereas to confuse these two phenomena in Arabic would modify the meaning of a word or make it incomprehensible, as with "Ahwaz". When this word became current in Persia, it lost its etymological meaning by the transformation of its voiced "h" into an unvoiced one. (11)

    Later on, the Persians named this region Khuzestan, that is to say, the "land of combats and forts", for the Arabs had constructed military fortifications there which were to serve as bases of operations in their expansion towards Persia and India. Under the Safawid Dynasty, this region was known under the name of Arabistan rather than Khuzestan, in reference to its inhabitants (12). The term Arabistan, which indicates the Arab nature of a people or territory, is the word used by all non-Arab populations of the region to designate the Arab lands situated on their frontiers

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  7. Does Sa'ad want to steal Ahwaz and give it to Americans?

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  8. Why would I do that? The Americans will just give it back to the Persian Mullahs the way they handed the rest of Iraq over to them. The Great Satan is your friend, not ours.

    Sa'ad Ibn Abi Waqqas

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  9. Saad,

    Before anything else saad, allow me to remind you that Pan-anything is just destructive so throw your stupid pan arabism away,
    My second advice for you is to look up the word racist , you may want to read about racism in wikipedia the site that you posted such utter nonsense arabistan regarding Khuzistan.
    Racistis applied to you who calls other non arabs dogs and limit Islam to arabs only?
    If the porphet of islam wasn't arab those Jahil arabs would have been drown in their Ajhal-ul Mrrakab for good, islam emerged to uproot distances between social classes and racism and the superiority of one race to another , islam is to extent the spirit of unity! Islam is for all man kind not only arabs! and hwo silly of someone if he says muhammad SAS was arab so islam si only arabic and no one else should be muslim ...islam considers all human society from every race tribe and location as member of one family .....I ask you saad :dont you call another muslim brother?
    dont you believe in Allah's word in quran that verily all believers are brothers??

    You remark saddam who killed hundred thousands of your Iraqi fellows a hero , he was a puppet with an expiration date for your western zionist masters, he played a game on you, Zionists penetrated in your nation to demolish you with that pan arabism of Baath regime!
    In iran Iraq war, Iran defeated Iraq and her allies all alone with bare hand, and Guess who fought Bravely against saddam....the brave inhabitants of khuzistan showed their loyalty to iran..they fought bravely which was manifestation of their alliance to Iran only!
    what you see here now as today Iran is just teh latest of a great Iran stretched from Iraq to Afghanistan, so even Iraq was iran's shall we iranians claim our land again? ironic eh?!
    Iran with Arabs Azeries bakhtiyaries baloochis kurds turkmens and lurs........cant be separated by any one!

    PS: Do you know that The US used Qatar and Kuwait soil to attack Iraq?? hmmm such arabic brotherhood!

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  10. Samimaneh,
    When I read what you write I pitty you. And I do not know if you are a liar, or ignorant, or just have a problem with reading comprehension. If you want to debate you need to understand what is said and respond. But you can not put words in someone's mouth. I will not let you do that.

    1)I did not post from Wikipedia and we Arabs wrote our history before the internet was even created.

    2)I did not call any other people "dogs" I called ONE PERSON, KHOMEINI a dog. Do you understand what you read?

    3)I did not say Islam is for one people. But in response to your silly Khomeini rhetoric about Islam that wants to teach others about Islam as if your government is an Islamic government that wants to educate others about Islam, I had to remind you that the prophet is Arab, the Quran is Arabic, and the Arabs can UNDERSTAND Islam and do not need anyone to teach them about it. It was the Arabs who brought Islam to Persia. Before that you were worshipping fire which is as ignorant as the Jahiliya Arabs, no?

    cont...

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  11. 4)Not just Islam, but also Christianity teaches that Jesus came for everyone and the whole world, and so do other religions. All religions teach this. I would hope everyone feels that all human beings are brothers not only the ones from the same religion.

    5)We will not be fooled by your Islamic rhetoric. You are a racist because you want to deny the Arab identity. You want to deny an entire nation their identity and when you do that you show your hatred, hostility, and racism against the Arab nation. You do not define people, they define themselves. Just like you can not go to Russia and tell them they are not Russians, or to China and tell they are not Chinese, or to France and tell them they are not French. Why are you so hateful of the Arab people?

    6)Saddam Hussein was a brave freedom fighter who fought the US and died defending his country. It is silly for you to even try to deny this but its another example of your hatred. When Saddam and the brave Iraqis were fighting the Great Satan, your Iranian collaborators in Iraq were working with the "Great Satan" because Iran told them to work with the Great Satan. We also remember when your sick and stupid Ahmadinajad visited the Green Zone under the protecton of the Great Satan. Remember that? Did your president enjoy the hospitality of the great satan and his protection?

    7)Saddam and the brave Iraqi army defeated Khomeini the dog and his sick backward revolution. Even Khomeini the dog had to admit it when he said "I have drank from the poison cup" Who made him drink the poison? Saddam made Khomeini drink the poison?

    8) Only when the Great Satan invaded Iraq, destroyed it and gave it to Iran were you able to do anything in Iraq. Say thank you Great Satan next time you pray.

    9)The Arab governments do not represent the people. They are all traitors so we are not responsible for them. The Prisons of the Arab world are full of people because they reject all these traitors. We dont defend Arab regimes but we will not Iran play games in the Arab world.

    10)The Persian empire included parts of Iraq, but it was OCCUPYING EMPIRE. The people in Mesopatamia are NOT PERSIAN and NEVER WERE PERSIANS. They were Babylonians, Chaldeans, and Assyrians who came from the Arabian Peninsula. And now you want to build a new Persian empire, a new Safavid Empire. It will not last, not in Arab lands no matter how much Great Satan helps. you.

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  12. And do not forget to thank the Zionist entity for helping Khomeini fight Iraq.

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  13. Dear Samimaneh,

    Wikipedia is more valid than the website from which the Arab posted. He posted from a Baathi website www.al-moharer.net. Baathis are good in indoctrination and self-deception as Saddam was.

    Furthermore, he is mourning over the descruction of his country. It's not wise to discuss and debate with a frustrated person cursing and accusing this and that for his/her losses.

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  14. Saad is the kind of arab who lives in the west and doesn't have the guts to fight against what he calls great Satan, talking is cheap Saad!

    Farhad was right even WEAKIpedia is more valid than the site you posted from,

    Those arabs who have been imprisoned in arab countries all confessed that they have been inspired by Iranians and their revolution and the islamic nature of our revolution! Iran is only introducing Islam to the world as it is for people who can get the message but people like you will be always in their absolute Ignorance,
    Saddam fought with the uSA hiding in a hole for 40 days ..and we didnt see any brave resistance ..you seem to be as coward as saddam !
    In iran Iraq war ..the western and eastern blocs ganged up with arab reactionaries to impose the iraqi war on Iran,but iranian Muslims powerfully blunted the conspiracy and appeared more strongly and more stable than before....go read about UN resolution 598 ...see who defeated who ... Ayatollah khomeini mentioned that the decision was taken for the cause of islam and in the line with the views of all military experts, USA used saddam and then abused him ... the zionist help u mention for iranians were downing iranian passenger plane above our own territorial water ...killing more than 260 people (done only because of Iraq to pressure iran more and more...zionist help >>>
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/earnest_will.htm

    Although accepting the resolution 598 was not the end of the war because war mongers like you was seeking to attack on operational region but Alhamdulellah all of them failed and resulted them heavey beatings and irreparable damages The baath regime was forced to withdraw shamefully ...read article six of the said resultion ...600 times so that you may get what i meant by defeating you, Baghdad regime couldnt accept article 6 because according to it Iraq was recognized as aggressor and i am sure this article was the start of another big failure for your kind..(disturbances inside Iraq!!)
    all I can say to you silly racist arab that I denounce pan -anything in my post and unlike you Iran will respect each and every tribe as Iranian entity,we are brothers and sisters with no racial differences and no prejudice.

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  15. Sa'ad Ibn Abi WaqqasMonday, November 16, 2009

    Samimaneh,

    I was hoping you would apologize for your lies and for putting words in my mouth, but you did not. That's too bad. Didn't your Islamic upbringing teach you to not lie? Is honesty a part of your religion? You put words in my mouth and when I caught you, you ignored it again. You made accusations and you could not support it as I pointed out.

    1)You first tried to be sneaky and equate the traitors who rule the Arab states as representatives of the Arab nation. When I told you they do not represent us and the jails are full of freedom fighters who want to overthrow them you now claim they are inspired by your backward, primitive, and ignorant "revolution". I hate to break the news to you but they are mostly Arab Nationalists, leftists, communists, and others. Your ignorant revolution does not inspire anyone exept the uneducated and illiterate. Do you like to make up claims just like that? Again is honesty a part of your religion?

    2)Saddam Hussein tried to reach out to the Khomeini on the basis of mutual respect and non-interference in each others countries but Khomeini the dog wanted to export his revolution to Iraq and we stopped him. For 8 years we defended our homeland from that dog and terrorists who were killing Iraqis inside Baghdad. The same traitors who were working for Khomeini in the 80s are now working for the "Great Satan" in the Green Zone on the orders of your Persian Mullahs. It was Khomeini who made that war necessary and he was defeated. He admitted it himself. The Dog said "I have drank from the poison cup", and it was Saddam who held the poison cup to his mouth and made him drink it before he placed his shoes on his beard and black turban. So if Khomeini admits defeat, who are you to claim victory?

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  16. Sa'ad Ibn Abi WaqqasMonday, November 16, 2009

    3)al-Shaheed Saddam Hussein is the only one to fight the Americans. He has been fighting the US since the liberation of Kuwait city, part of our Iraq just like al-Ahwaz, in 1990. Not one day did the US fly over Iraq without an attempt to shoot their planes down. When the US invaded Iraq from occupied Kuwait city the regime fought as much as it could based on its capabilities and weapons. Nobody helped us or gave us weapons. It was us against the Great Satan alone. Where was your Persian Army to help your "Muslim Brothers" in Iraq? You are against Pan-Arabism as you say. Ok, is Iraq a Budhist country? ha ha ha LOL. Didnt the great, revolutionary "Islamic government" in Tehran want to defend an Islamic country? Why not? I will tell you why! ITS BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE PERSIAN/IRANIAN NATIONAL INTEREST NOT TO!! THATS WHY. And this regime is a hypocritical regime.

    When the country was invaded and the regime fell, what did Saddam Hussein do? He turned his men into underground resistance fighters and they are still fighting to this day years after his martyrdom. They are fighting the Great Satans army. So let's compare that with what the Iranians did? Not only did the Persian watch but they also sent their men to work with the Great Satan. Your allies/collaborators who are controlled by your "revolutionary" guard like (Jeish al Mahdi or Badr) were sent to Baghdad on top of the Great Satans tanks to work with the Americans. They are under the protecton of the Great Satan in the Green zone, and your stupid Ahmadinajad also visited the green zone of the Great Satan.

    Spare us your hypocrisy!
    Spare us your lies!
    Nobody is fooled.

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  17. Sa'ad Ibn Abi WaqqasMonday, November 16, 2009

    1) Will you apologize for the lies you said about me and putting words in my mouth? If not, why not? Isnt honesty a part of your religious morality?

    2)Why did you not respond to the history of Al-Ahwaz no matter who wrote the history? Are you denying it? Do you have a response? Are you able to respond? Or do you just call people names and engage in anti-Arab diatribes?

    3)Why didnt the Persian Islamic army help defend their "Muslim brothers" in Iraq and Afghanistan? You are against ALL PAN ANYTHING and believe in Islam, ok, why didnt the Persian Army help their brothers in Afghanistan? And Iraq? And why did the Iraqis that Iran controls work with the Great Satan? Hakim is Iran's man, why did he not resist?

    4)Why didnt Iran help the Chechyn resistance to Russia? Arent they Muslims?

    5)Why does Iran occupy 3 Arab islands? Why occupy your Muslim brothers?

    6)What did the "Great Satan" cook for Ahmadinajad when he visited the Green zone in Baghdad? Did he feel safe under the protection of the Americans? Was the food they served him halal?

    7)Why did the Zionist state help Iran in its war against Iraq? Remember Iran-Contra?

    8)Saddam Hussein launched his weapons against the Zionist state. They did not do too much damage but that was all he had. When will Iran launch its missiles against the Zionist state? Will Iran ever fight Israel? Saddam did. Will Iran only give weapons to Hizballah and let the Lebanese fight alone? Why? Is this because Iran is afraid to directly attack Israel? Saddam did.

    9)You said "talk is cheap" and you mention fighting the great satan? Is the Persian government fighting the great satan? Why not? Yes talk is cheap, and it becomes cheaper and cheaper the further away you are from the war. Ahmadinajad makes alot of talk, alot of cheap talk, but he does it far far away from the Zionist state? Its easy and cheap to talk. If Arab Nationalism is wrong and Pan-Islamism is the answer when will you help your Muslim brothers in Palestine and Lebanon and Iraq? Can you name one Iranian who died defending any Arab land?

    10)Try to be honest. Do not lie. Do not put words in someones mouth. Do not attack anyone personally. FOcus on facts. If its tooo hard then be quiet.

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  18. I forgot to tell you I learned the words "Great Satan" From Khomeini the dog. Now answer the questions if you can.

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  19. Sa'ad,
    I don't know why you refer to Ayatollah Khomeini as the dog. There were much more similarities between Saddam and a dog than between Khomeini and a dog, but, educated people don't call such names. People may describe each other with adjectives, for example "greedy Saddam" or " Stupid Bush", but for example using "Saddam the dog" does not seem a nice manner even though the writer use numbers in the text to make it look like an academic text.

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  20. Farhaad,

    You are right. I shouldn't do that. I apologize to the dogs for comparing them to Ayatoilet Khomeini.

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  21. Saad,

    You don't have to repeat yourself, in fact when you claimed something the burden of proof would be on your shoulder! so prove it or else shut it. ..
    let me tingle your rusty memory ...

    It is the clear fact that Iraq attacked Iran and The whole west and east and arabs were behind saddam and all you can say is iran contra as a zionist help ....how lame you are, so stop playing merry-go-round here,
    how many mass graves have been found in Iraq? the prime example of brutality of saddam which is well known for all is Halabjah...who would kill his own Iraqi fellows by chemical weapons? 5000 innocent kurds at once! ..another example you may remember and the whole world remember well because of saddam's trial ...was Mass murdering of shia muslims from DUJAIL
    how about ethnically cleansing of Marsh Arabs(ma3daan)How about suppressing of 1991 Iraqi intifada?killing thousands of innocent souls..and you defend Saddam a tyrant? is this what you are? your Baath sentiment has blinded you
    the one who should apologize from us is you not any one else!
    You should apologize from Iraqi people
    Your Shaheed saddam died lived like rabid dog, what I mentioned to tickle your conscience were only a few crimes of along crime list of saddam and his fans like you ....your shaheed saddam the arab tyrant was nothing but an expired tool in hands of the Great Satan, your shaheed saddam concealed himself in a hole scared to death because he knew what he had done to poor innocent people women children men young old
    My last words to you as such a bad loser like you are: shame on you

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  22. Samimaneh, Im so sorry. I did not mean to upset you so much and make you go hysterical. Calm down so you dont hurt yourself. You did not mention any crimes at all. What you did was spit out the propaganda of both the Khomeini regime and the "Great Satan". Al-Shaheed Saddam Hussein does not need anyone to defend because neither YOU, nor your Iranian regime, nor your friend the "Great Satan" can ever put Saddam Hussein on trial. We do not need to defend him from lies, propaganda, and rhetoric. We have heard all this before on American Television. Do you have anything new to offer?

    You want to make this about Al-Shaheed Saddam Hussein because you are still full of hate and bitterness because he made Ayatoilet Khomeini "drink poison" and put his foot on his Black Turban and humiliated him. You are angry because Saddam Defeated your revolution and did not let you export your backward revolution to Iraq. It was only your friend the "Great Satan" that allowed you to take over Iraq.

    Another reason not to discuss Saddam Hussein is because ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! I am an Iraqi, and you are not so do not stick your nose in my country. What happens in Iraq is none of your business and you do not speak for any Iraqis. We know you Persians very well and we know your historical hatred since the first battle of al-qadasiya to Saddam's Qadasiya in the 80s.

    Do whatever you want in Persia but get out of Iraq and that means from Baghdad to Al-Ahwaz.

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  23. It was Khomeini who started the war and engaged in a series of hostile acts including violations of Iraqi territory and airspace, bombings of border villages, kidnappings, sabotage, attacks on Iraqi police patrols, radio broadcasts beamed into Iraq inciting rebellion, and a terrorist campaign deep into Iraq which lead to the deaths of dozens of innocent Iraqi civilians.

    How old are you? Maybe youre not lying. Maybe you are just brainwashed by your regime. Khomeini the dog himself said he wants to take over Iraq. We are not accusing him of anything he did not say. We accept Khomeini words as he says them. We had to stop him. And our weapons came from RUSSIA, not the US. 95% of Iraqi weapons came from the USSR.

    Why do you call the support of the Zionist entity for Khomeini a "merry go round"? Are you denying it? The Zionists were hoping you will win because they know the Persians are not a threat to them and only the Arabs want to liberate Palestine. The Americans wanted both sides to lose but the Zionists were supporting your Persian army, not Iraq.

    Are you denying this? Are you denying the history of al-ahwaz? You did not answer any of my questions? Why? Can you answer them? Do you have any response? Can you respond? Calling me names is not a response?

    The facts are the facts. Im sorry they bother you so much, but you have to live in reality no matter how much it bothers you.

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  24. The only people who died from Chemical weapons were the Persian soldiers who were sent to occupy Baghdad by the dog Khomeini. Are you old enough to remember that? Khomeini the dog and illiterate and ignorant who never takes a bath or shower used to send young teenagers to death on the Iraqi front because he wanted to "liberate Karbala" in his words. He used to give them a key to put around their necks and he called the key to heaven. Do you deny this? He is responsible for their death, not Iraq which was defending itself. Im sorry but Karbala and Baghdad are Arab and if Persians want to occupy them we will have to fight.

    But tell me, what kind of ignorant human being gives kids keys to wear and go die on the front so they can get to heaven? He sent waves of them, in the thousands. We had to use chemical weapons. There was no other way and we will do it again to defend our homes. And since they wanted to go to heaven why are you mad they got killed. Khomeini wanted them to go to heaven and we helped send them there. So why are you upset?

    You are the killers!
    You are the hypocrites!
    You are the racists!

    Iraq was defending its land. Now tell me, did Ahmadinajad enjoy his visit to the green zone with the Great satan? Why did the Iranian collaborators work with the Great Satan in Baghdad? And you call Saddam an American tool! lol. That's funny. The American tools are in the Green Zone and Saddams men are the resistance. This is a fact. You are hypocrites. You need to get over your centuries hatred of Arabs. You killed Omar and you Killed Saddam but you will never rule the Arab world. NEVER. Give up your Safavid dreams! It will never last no matter how much America helps your Mullahs today.

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  25. LMAO@saad

    you cracked me up ... now tell me saad are you a stand up comedian?

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  26. By the way saad you may need to review Geneva convention regarding of chemical weapons ..you are as thick as plank

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  27. Samimaneh

    Any response besides a fabricated, forced, unnatural and not believable laugh??

    Many questions here for you to answer if you can. Can you?

    Do not speak about International Law when you defend a sick government like the Khomeini regime. Stop killing Arabs in al-Ahwaz, stop killing Baluchi Sunnis, stop oppressing Kurds and Azeris, and bring those who killed Neda to justice.

    And why does someone who wants to impose Khomeinis vision of Sharia make a reference to GENEVA! Now that's really funny. Geneva is for those civilized people who live in the modern world, its not for the sick dogs like Khomeini who send kids with keys around their necks to die and go to heaven.

    You are such a hypocrite on so many levels.

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  28. I wonder why Sa'ad and some other Arabs have alergy to the name of a dead man ( khomeini)?!

    What has khomeini done to them?! Good or bad, khomeini was for iranians not for Irais.

    Khomeini has been kind of forgotten for Iranians, How comes we hear his name from Arabs more than from Iranians?

    Maybe these Arabs are living in 1900s!

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  29. Farhaad,
    It is strange that you would say this after your friend spent the entire thread talking about al-Shaheed Saddam Hussein. I wish you would ask her to apply your advice. She needs it more.

    And I agree The dog Khomeini was for Iranians, but the problem is Khomeini tried to export his revolution to Iraq. We did not accuse him of this. He proudly proclaimed it and said what he wants to do. If he behaved and left Iraq alone Saddam Hussein would not have had to force him to drink poison and all the kids Khomeini sent to heaven would still be alive today.

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  30. Sa'ad,

    I don't think the winner of a battle hates the loser. It's usally the other way around.

    You hate Iran and khomeini just like a loser does, despite your claim of victory.

    Actually I understand that the destruction of Iraq was/is heavy to you. But the culprit was not Iran. The U.S. has the strongest army in the world and defeated Iraq's army as expected. If you hate the U.S., it's understandable because it was the winner and Baa'thi regime was the loser.

    Now, ask yourself why the U.S. occupied Iraq?

    Do you think Khomeini's ghost whispered in Bush's ears to occupy Iraq and overthrow Saddam?

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  31. Farhaad,

    You are simple-minded. And like your retarded friend you like to put words in people's mouths. I dont hate Persians. I dont hate any group of people. Yes, I do hate Khomeini. I hate him for the destruction he brought to both Iran and Iraq. We did not have to be enemies, but he insisted to make us enemies. I hate him because he forced us to kill so many young Iranians in defense of our homeland, and many of us also died. So yes I hate the person who forced that was on Iraq.

    I already know why the US occupied and destroyed Iraq with the help of the Iranian regime.

    Saddam Hussein was an anti-Imperialist, anti-Zionist revolutionary who was a threat to the Zionist state and to Western Imperialism, and Iraq was the most potentially powerful Arab country which was not under the control of US Imperialism like the traitors in Saudia, Kuwait, and other Arabian Gulf, Arab states. Someone like Saddam Hussein, independent, revolutionary, Arab Nationalist and who stood up to the "Great Satan" had to be destroyed. YOU NEED TO ASK WHY THE AMERICA DESTROYED IRAQ AND LEFT THE KHOMEINI REGIME IN ITS PLACE??????Thats the real question.

    And finally, the role of the Iranian regime in Iraq is well known. You helped destroy the country and foment sectarian strife in order to destroy a strong, unified Arab state and then swallow up the South of Iraq the way Khomeini dreamed of. Iraq was invaded and destroyed by BOTH THE GREAT SATAN AND THE IRANIAN REGIME.

    Now you answer my questions. What are the Iranians and Iranian puppets doing in the Green Zone? Hakim, and the Badr terrorists and Sadr and his militia are YOUR FRIENDS! You control them. Why are they not resisting???

    Saddam's men and the Baath party are the national resistance. So who is working with Great Satan? And who is fighting him?

    Your lies and hypocrisy might work with a stupid American, but Im an Arab. I know you well.

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  32. Sa'ad,

    Thanks for you comments.

    God bless you and God bless the Islamic Republic of Iran!

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  33. You run away from my questions because you cant answer them. I understand all you have is rhetoric and slogans. That may work with the illiterate but it does not work with Iraqi Arabs. We are neighbors and we know you well.

    God Bless the memory of al-shaheed Saddam Hussein!

    God Bless the Iraqi Resistance!

    God Bless the Arab Nation!

    Death to the Safavid Empire!

    Death to all traitors in the Green Zone! (that means the friends of the "Islamic" republic of Iran.

    I remember what Khomeini used to say about the "Great Satan", but I guess the Persian Mullahs changed their mind and the Great Satan is actually a good friend when he destroys Iraq.

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  34. Woooow
    There was so much hatred coming out of one person here than I’ve ever seen in my entire life.

    Thank you Samimaneh.. that was quite entertaining and cracked me up as well ;D

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  35. Good to see you here commenting sis Faith, I have to confess some of these baathi racists have big mouth only but they crack some good jokes too....

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  36. Israel has the right idea of how to treat arabs we should learn from them.The only peace that can be achieved with arabs is through force!

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  37. Ario we are not racist zionists to favor one race or nation to the other, those racists arabs and israel altogether will go to hell but why are you judging the entire arab nation?

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